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== [[:File:WGBH (1968) (From - the Flick Out episode Ron Finley).png|WGBH (1968) (From - the Flick Out episode Ron Finley).png]] == |
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[[File:WGBH (1968) (From - the Flick Out episode Ron Finley).png|200px|right]] |
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'''Reason:''' There has been very little information regarding WGBH logos used during the 50's and 60's (the only known logo prior to this recent discovery by Squidy, I assume, was an in-credit logo). Today, this oddity has been uncovered on the ''Flick Out'' episode "Ron Finley", three years before their infamous 1971 logo was reportedly adopted. It comes to show how hidden and unknown WGBH logos in its heyday were. Discoveries such as this makes us wonder if there are earlier logos adopted by WGBH, let alone animated/standalone ones. |
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== Walt Disney Feature Animation's first logo == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Walt Disney Feature Animation (1993).jpg |
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Walt Disney Feature Animation (1993, variant).jpg |
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'''Reason:''' The first official logo for Walt Disney Feature Animation. An interesting variant of the 86 movie logo. Appeared on the internal documentary ''Walt Disney's Animazing Features: Sixty Years of Feature Length Animation Production''. [[User:Komputer|David's Logo Archive]] ([[User talk:Komputer|talk]]) 8:41 AM, 20 August 2024 (GMT+4) |
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# {{Support}} [[User:AlmightyKingPrawn|AlmightyKingPrawn]] ([[User talk:AlmightyKingPrawn|talk]]) 03:16, 21 August 2024 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 15:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} [[File:Kbcars123456_Sig.jpg|120px|link=User:Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|Talk to me!]]) 19:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== One-off WBTV (1997) == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Warner Bros. Television (1997).jpg |
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Warner Bros. Television (1997-2).jpg |
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Warner Bros. Television (1997-3).jpg |
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'''Reason:''' Odd looking one-off logo for WBTV here. Was only used in the |
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1997 France 2 two-part christmas special ''Noël Chez Bugs Bunny'' and ''Opération Bugs Bunny''. And I thought the 2003 WB Italia logo looked off . [[User: Komputer|David's Logo Archive]] ([[User talk:Komputer|talk]]) 1:27 AM, 11 August 2024 (GMT+4) |
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# {{Support}} That's nice. [[File:CKE signature.png|70px|link=User:CKE]] ([[User talk:CKE|Feel free to chat with me (if you want)!]]) 23:29, 10 August 2024 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 15:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} [[File:Kbcars123456_Sig.jpg|120px|link=User:Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|Talk to me!]]) 19:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== First [[Renaissance Pictures]] logo (Circa 1982) == |
== First [[Renaissance Pictures]] logo (Circa 1982) == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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File:Renaissance Pictures, LTD. (Circa 1982).jpg |
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# {{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 21:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
# {{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 21:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} [[User:Kbcars123456|Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|talk]]) 17:30, 8 August 2024 (UTC) |
# {{Support}} [[User:Kbcars123456|Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|talk]]) 17:30, 8 August 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} Not sure if this was ever truly used as a logo, but it's definitely an interesting find. --[[User:AUnnamedDragon|AUnnamedDragon]] 12:27 PM, August 22, 2024 (CET) |
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== Corporation for Public Broadcasting (2000) (NatureScene Variant #2) == |
== Corporation for Public Broadcasting (2000) (NatureScene Variant #2) == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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File:Corporation for Public Broadcasting (2000) (NatureScene Variant -2).png |
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== Reeves Teletape (1981) == |
== Reeves Teletape (1981) == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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File:Reeves Teletape (1981).png |
File:Reeves Teletape (1981).png |
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# {{Support}}. Awesome find! [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] '''''[[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]''''' <b>·</b> '''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]]''''' 09:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
# {{Support}}. Awesome find! [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] '''''[[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]''''' <b>·</b> '''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]]''''' 09:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} Very rare! [[File:CKE signature.png|70px|link=User:CKE]] ([[User talk:CKE|Feel free to chat with me (if you want)!]]) 04:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC) |
# {{Support}} Very rare! [[File:CKE signature.png|70px|link=User:CKE]] ([[User talk:CKE|Feel free to chat with me (if you want)!]]) 04:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} Per everyone. [[User:Kbcars123456|Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|talk]]) 17:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC) |
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# {{Support}} No ALP branding and it precedes the real Reeves? That's a legendary find! [[File:Fiddlesticks logo.png|130px|link=User:FiddlesticksLogos]] ([[User talk:FiddlesticksLogos|• '''USER TALK!''' •]]) 16:53, 27 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Russian Pathè from 1910 == |
== Russian Pathè from 1910 == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Pathè (Very rare Russian variant, 1910).jpg |
Pathè (Very rare Russian variant, 1910).jpg |
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{{Comment}} I just removed the watermark lmao. [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 20:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC) |
{{Comment}} I just removed the watermark lmao. [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 20:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== [[:File:BBC Two(1993).jpeg|BBC Two(1993).jpeg]] == |
== [[:File:BBC Two(1993).jpeg|BBC Two(1993).jpeg]] == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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[[File:BBC Two(1993).jpeg|200px|right]] |
[[File:BBC Two(1993).jpeg|200px|right]] |
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'''Reason:''' Here is a REAL nomination. This unknown BBC Ident aired on BBC Two when they aired ''Cops On The Box'' in 1993. [[User:Kbcars123456|Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|talk]]) 03:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
'''Reason:''' Here is a REAL nomination. This unknown BBC Ident aired on BBC Two when they aired ''Cops On The Box'' in 1993. [[User:Kbcars123456|Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|talk]]) 03:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== [[:File:Universal(32).jpg|Universal(32).jpg]] == |
== [[:File:Universal(32).jpg|Universal(32).jpg]] == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{rejected|failed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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[[File:Universal(32).jpg|200px|right]] |
[[File:Universal(32).jpg|200px|right]] |
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'''Reason:''' This logo is iconic, isn't it? [[User:Kbcars123456|Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|talk]]) 19:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC) |
'''Reason:''' This logo is iconic, isn't it? [[User:Kbcars123456|Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|talk]]) 19:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC) |
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{{Comment}} I made this as a joke for those who don't know. Please close this nomination as failed. [[User:Kbcars123456|Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|talk]]) 02:33, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
{{Comment}} I made this as a joke for those who don't know. Please close this nomination as failed. [[User:Kbcars123456|Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|talk]]) 02:33, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
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# {{Comment}} Understandable. Usually on here we just post variants and/or logos that are rare to the point that they could beat the T.A.T. Communications Company logo and the DTS Waterdrop trailer. I understand this is a joke but don't take it seriously next time. [[File:CKE signature.png|70px|link=User:CKE]] ([[User talk:CKE|Feel free to chat with me (if you want)!]]) 04:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC) |
# {{Comment}} Understandable. Usually on here we just post variants and/or logos that are rare to the point that they could beat the T.A.T. Communications Company logo and the DTS Waterdrop trailer. I understand this is a joke but don't take it seriously next time. [[File:CKE signature.png|70px|link=User:CKE]] ([[User talk:CKE|Feel free to chat with me (if you want)!]]) 04:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Even more French WBP variants == |
== Even more French WBP variants == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Warner Bros. Pictures (French byline, 2002).jpg |
Warner Bros. Pictures (French byline, 2002).jpg |
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#{{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 23:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 23:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} [[File:Kbcars123456_Sig.jpg|120px|link=User:Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|Talk to me!]]) 19:59, 30 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== French Castle Rock variants == |
== French Castle Rock variants == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Castle Rock Entertainment (1999 French byline variant).jpg |
Castle Rock Entertainment (1999 French byline variant).jpg |
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#{{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 23:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 23:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} [[File:Kbcars123456_Sig.jpg|120px|link=User:Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|Talk to me!]]) 20:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Added the variant from ''The Green Mile'' Quebec trailer. Also updated the description. |
Added the variant from ''The Green Mile'' Quebec trailer. Also updated the description. |
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[[User:Komputer|David's Logo Archive]] ([[User talk:Komputer|talk]]) 12:07, 4 July 2024 (GMT+4) |
[[User:Komputer|David's Logo Archive]] ([[User talk:Komputer|talk]]) 12:07, 4 July 2024 (GMT+4) |
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== More French WBP variants == |
== More French WBP variants == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Warner Bros. Pictures (1999 French byline variant).jpg |
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#{{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 23:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 23:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} [[File:Kbcars123456_Sig.jpg|120px|link=User:Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|Talk to me!]]) 20:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Changed the capture to the one from ''The Green Mile'' Quebec trailer. Also updated the description. |
Changed the capture to the one from ''The Green Mile'' Quebec trailer. Also updated the description. |
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[[User:Komputer|David's Logo Archive]] ([[User talk:Komputer|talk]]) 12:00, 4 July 2024 (GMT+4) |
[[User:Komputer|David's Logo Archive]] ([[User talk:Komputer|talk]]) 12:00, 4 July 2024 (GMT+4) |
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== French WBP variants == |
== French WBP variants == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Warner Bros. Pictures (French byline, 1996).jpg |
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#{{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 23:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 23:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} I like these French logos you archive! [[File:Kbcars123456_Sig.jpg|120px|link=User:Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|Talk to me!]]) 20:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== French Cinemascope snipe (1959) == |
== French Cinemascope snipe (1959) == |
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{{Archive top|Closing as {{approved|passed}}. [[User:Camenati|Camenati]] ([[User talk:Camenati|talk]]) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Cinemascope (French, 1959).jpg |
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#{{Support}} [[File:E12349 Signature.png|150px|link=User:Eliternal12349]] ('''[[User talk:Eliternal12349|TALK]]•[[Special:Contributions/Eliternal12349|CONTRIBUTIONS]]''') 00:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} [[File:E12349 Signature.png|150px|link=User:Eliternal12349]] ('''[[User talk:Eliternal12349|TALK]]•[[Special:Contributions/Eliternal12349|CONTRIBUTIONS]]''') 00:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
#{{Support}} from [[User:VPJHuk|VPJHuk]] ([[User talk:VPJHuk|talk]]) 09:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Support}} [[File:Kbcars123456_Sig.jpg|120px|link=User:Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|Talk to me!]]) 20:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC) |
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I've fixed the gallery size. [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 13:14, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
I've fixed the gallery size. [[User:Ashley Taylor|Ashley Taylor ft. Cure Finale (soulbond friend) and CW/RB (account manager w/ shared pet)]] ([[User talk:Ashley Taylor|talk]]) 13:14, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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#{{Comment}} Can someone close this? It's been open for a very long time. [[File:Kbcars123456_Sig.jpg|120px|link=User:Kbcars123456]] ([[User talk:Kbcars123456|Talk to me!]]) 03:26, 31 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Random Miramax font variant that exists for some reason == |
== Random Miramax font variant that exists for some reason == |
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{{Archive top|1=Closing as {{Approved|successful}}. <span style="font-family: 'Verdana';">[[User:Doctorine Dark|Doctorine Dark]] <small>([[User talk:Doctorine Dark|talk]])</small></span> 18:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Latest revision as of 19:08, 25 October 2024
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WGBH (1968) (From - the Flick Out episode Ron Finley).png
Reason: There has been very little information regarding WGBH logos used during the 50's and 60's (the only known logo prior to this recent discovery by Squidy, I assume, was an in-credit logo). Today, this oddity has been uncovered on the Flick Out episode "Ron Finley", three years before their infamous 1971 logo was reportedly adopted. It comes to show how hidden and unknown WGBH logos in its heyday were. Discoveries such as this makes us wonder if there are earlier logos adopted by WGBH, let alone animated/standalone ones.
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Walt Disney Feature Animation's first logo
One-off WBTV (1997)
First Renaissance Pictures logo (Circa 1982)
Corporation for Public Broadcasting (2000) (NatureScene Variant #2)
Reeves Teletape (1981)
Russian Pathè from 1910
BBC Two(1993).jpeg
Universal(32).jpg
Even more French WBP variants
French Castle Rock variants
More French WBP variants
French WBP variants
French Cinemascope snipe (1959)
Random Miramax font variant that exists for some reason