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Closing proposal as failed. Logohub (talk) 13:24, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Today I am here requesting we make a new "Block O Meter" type thing to be less harsh to noobs.

Besides our trolls and sockers, we should rate our blocks based on the following chart.

Warning

Second Warning

(NEW) Third Warning. This will be their final warning just in case they don't get the memo.

(NEW) Hour-ish Block. A whole hour to reflect on what they did. User returns to editing after the hour of reading the rules.

24 Hour (1 Day) Block.

76 Hour (3 Day) Block.

168 Hour (1 Week) Block.

(NEW) 336 Hour (2 week) Block. At this point they should get the memo to stop

720 Hour (1 Month) Block.

(NEW) 2160 (2 Month) Block. This will be the user's final chance and warning.

Indefinite (Permanent) Block.

This chart will give the user 11 chances to make this right. If they don't live up to the 11, they get permanently block from the site. By the way, this won't apply to our average trolls and sock puppets, they get immediately Perma blocked.

Not opposed to the idea, but shouldn't admins make their best judgement on what block time fits the bill? Additionally, I would oppose the year-long ban, as at that point, it's basically indefinite. Maybe replace that with an indefinite block with appeals after 1 year. Just some food for thought. Blad (talk) 02:15, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

ok

(lets talks) 02:36, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

but some admins might be too hard on new users who don't know what the guide is

(lets talks) 02:38, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

If an admin is being too harsh to new contributors, they should probably be given the boot. A good admin would redirect contributors to the correct steps to take, without instantly resorting to the ban hammer. If a user ignores the warning/doesn't listen, then they can be blocked. --Blad (talk • contribs • global) 12:36, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

I just want people to have more chances before being Perma banned

(lets talks) 15:05, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Oppose the one we have works fine. MinistrycraftEntertainment (talk) 07:22, 19 November 2022 (UTC) Oppose per MinistrycraftEntertainment. Logohub (talk) 10:18, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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+::Closing proposal as '''failed'''. ''[[User:Logohub|<span style="font-size: 120%;"><span style="font-family:'serif';">Logohub</span></span>]]'' ([[User talk:Logohub|talk]]) 13:24, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
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 Today I am here requesting we make a new "Block O Meter" type thing to be less harsh to noobs.
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 *720 Hour (1 Month) Block.
-*(NEW) 2160 (2 Month) Block
+*(NEW) 2160 (2 Month) Block. This will be the user's final chance and warning.
-*(NEW) 8760 (1 Year) Block. This will be the user's final chance and warning.
 *Indefinite (Permanent) Block.
 This chart will give the user 11 chances to make this right. If they don't live up to the 11, they get permanently block from the site. By the way, this won't apply to our average trolls and sock puppets, they get immediately Perma blocked.
+#Not opposed to the idea, but shouldn't admins make their best judgement on what block time fits the bill? Additionally, I would oppose the year-long ban, as at that point, it's basically indefinite. Maybe replace that with an indefinite block with appeals after 1 year. Just some food for thought. [[User:Blad|Blad]] ([[User talk:Blad|talk]]) 02:15, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
+:ok [[File:Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png|200px|link=User:CharlieFiddlesticks]] ([[User talk:CharlieFiddlesticks|lets talks]]) 02:36, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
+:but some admins might be too hard on new users who don't know what the guide is [[File:Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png|200px|link=User:CharlieFiddlesticks]] ([[User talk:CharlieFiddlesticks|lets talks]]) 02:38, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
+::If an admin is being too harsh to new contributors, they should probably be given the boot. A good admin would redirect contributors to the correct steps to take, without instantly resorting to the ban hammer. If a user ignores the warning/doesn't listen, then they can be blocked. --''[[User:Blad|<span style="font-weight: bold; background:linear-gradient(#ff00ff,#c800c8,purple,#c800c8,#ff00ff);; -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">Blad</span>]]'' ([[User_talk:Blad|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blad|contribs]] • [[mh:meta:Special:CentralAuth/Blad|global]]) 12:36, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
+:::I just want people to have more chances before being Perma banned [[File:Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png|200px|link=User:CharlieFiddlesticks]] ([[User talk:CharlieFiddlesticks|lets talks]]) 15:05, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
+{{Oppose|strong}} the one we have works fine. [[User:MinistrycraftEntertainment|MinistrycraftEntertainment]] ([[User talk:MinistrycraftEntertainment|talk]]) 07:22, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
+{{Oppose}} per MinistrycraftEntertainment. ''[[User:Logohub|<span style="font-size: 120%;"><span style="font-family:'serif';">Logohub</span></span>]]'' ([[User talk:Logohub|talk]]) 10:18, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
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