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{{Archive top|1=While the proposal as written has {{Rejected|failed}}, this should not be taken as a "never happening", but as more of a "not yet". However, I have followed Raidarr's advice and least set up a [https://www.reddit.com/r/AVIDWiki/ locked down placeholder subreddit] that just links to here and the channel without any ability to post and comment. That way we have a name reserved in case someone wants to misuse it. [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] <span style="font-size: 120%;"><span style="font-size: 120%;"><span style="font-family:'Trench';">'''''([[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]'''''&nbsp;<b>·</b>&#32;'''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]])'''''</span></span></span> 06:28, 7 April 2023 (UTC)}}
==Official AVID Subreddit==
==Official AVID Subreddit==
Should we have an official AVID subreddit? It will be a good alternative for users that want to talk about logos and the wiki but don't have a Discord account.
Should we have an official AVID subreddit? It will be a good alternative for users that want to talk about logos and the wiki but don't have a Discord account.


If this passes, the subreddit can be either at r/AudiovisualIdentityDatabase or r/AVIDWiki.
If this passes, the subreddit can be either at r/AudiovisualIdentityDatabase or r/AVIDWiki. {{Unsigned|Sickminecraft45}}


===Support===
===Support===
#Originally Oppose and then Abstain, but changed to {{Support}} after reading Raidarr's suggestion on the Discord (which I'm using as my justification).<br><br>Hear me out: we aren't ready to support an active subreddit. Yet. But we should start one up, keeping it relatively inactive for now (only linking to this site and the YouTube channel) so nobody tries to create an unauthorized AVID subreddit and use up the name down the line (especially if that somebody has a grudge against us or isn't willing to let us have it). Then, when we're sure we ''are'' ready (maybe a few years, tops), we can make that sub much more active. Just lay out some groundwork for the future. [[File:T807sig.png|50px|link=User:Trevor807]] '''·''' '''[[User talk:Trevor807|Talk]]''' '''·''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Trevor807|Edits]]''' 19:09, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

===Abstain===
===Abstain===
#{{Abstain}} I don’t want to be too harsh about this suggestion because I think it’s a good suggestion to allow people to have another means of being a community. However, I think it would be great to have sometime in 2024/2025 once a structure about how the moderation, rules and other elements are put together. As another note, perhaps it would be great to try to use [https://www.reddit.com/r/logodesign/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 this one] that I found for any users interested in having somewhere on there.

It’s a great suggestion and it might be helpful to plan out how you want the subreddit to be organized and structured with the rules and other things that might help make it a perfect place to be on the platform. [[User:Friendly Mountain12|Friendly Mountain12]] ([[User talk:Friendly Mountain12|talk]]) 05:58, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

# {{Abstain}} It's not a big deal and it would likely be in disuse for a long time, but it's not a ''bad'' idea. It might be better to make one officially than for someone completely unaccountable to make an 'unofficial' one at prime real estate like r/avidwiki that will be a thorn on the wiki later. "Darn, wish we handled it sooner". Regarding some of the opposes: The wiki isn't all ''that'' small. You may be surprised how small things subreddits can be made for. I think Solarstrike makes a good point about not putting all your eggs into Discord (and for that matter, the forum feature). Obviously the reddit would be a backup and not the encouraged outlet, but if AVID has any long term aspirations then really, why is it too early? The main weakness is that someone trusted by avid staff will just need to move the ball and be the one to keep an (intermittent) eye on the place, and redirect them to discord or the forum if they're doing anything advanced. The main trouble I think would be the initial appearance of LTAs and the wiki's undesirables who have an axe to grind that need to be handled since you'll have given them a shiny new toy to then take away. In so many words however: don't underestimate the value of planning ahead. This community is rather serious and it already has its foot on other platforms like youtube, I wouldn't want shortsightedness in something like this to hold it back. --[[User:Raidarr|Raidarr]] ([[User talk:Raidarr|talk]]) 08:35, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
<s>#{{Abstain}} after reading Raidarr's rationale, and after giving it a bit of thought. Maybe we can wait a few more years before we're at a point where we can expand to a subreddit. [[File:T807sig.png|50px|link=User:Trevor807]] '''·''' '''[[User talk:Trevor807|Talk]]''' '''·''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Trevor807|Edits]]''' 18:44, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</s>
#{{Abstain}} --[[User:DisneyInternationalFan|DisneyInternationalFan]] ([[User talk:DisneyInternationalFan|talk]]) 05:47, 7 April 2023 (UTC)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#{{Oppose}} '''for now.''' We are just too small right now. However, this would be a smart idea to get people in the wiki, but at this stage, we would close it down before the year was over. [[File:JrStudios Logo .png|150px|link=User:JrStudios]]([[User talk:JrStudios|Talk!]]) 10:37, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} just create a Discord account lol. Its no harder than creating a Reddit account, and it works better as a community space than a subreddit could. [[File:Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png|100px|link=User:EternityMediaGroup]] ([[User Talk:EternityMediaGroup|Lets chat!]]) 02:00, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} just create a Discord account lol. Its no harder than creating a Reddit account, and it works better as a community space than a subreddit could. [[File:Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png|100px|link=User:EternityMediaGroup]] ([[User Talk:EternityMediaGroup|Lets chat!]]) 02:00, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
#:UPDATE: I am, however NOT OPPOSED to opening a subreddit under one of these two names and keeping it privste until we're at a point where we are big enough to need a second community space. [[File:Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png|100px|link=User:EternityMediaGroup]] ([[User Talk:EternityMediaGroup|Lets chat!]]) 23:57, 3 April 2023 (UTC)<br>
#{{Oppose}} per EMG. [[File:T807sig.png|50px|link=User:Trevor807]] '''·''' '''[[User talk:Trevor807|Talk]]''' '''·''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Trevor807|Edits]]''' 02:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
#<s>{{Oppose}} per EMG. [[File:T807sig.png|50px|link=User:Trevor807]] '''·''' '''[[User talk:Trevor807|Talk]]''' '''·''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Trevor807|Edits]]''' 02:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)</s>
#{{Oppose}} Access denied. [[User:Compooper|Compooper]] ([[User talk:Compooper|talk]]) 03:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} per EMG. [[User:HibiscusCrown20|HibiscusCrown20]] ([[User talk:HibiscusCrown20|talk]]) 17:00, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} at this stage of AVID's lifespan. While a subreddit could eventually benefit us if we grow to a much larger size, at this stage when we're still mostly huddled together in one place it's best to keep things with our existing means of communication - though if you do want to make a general-purpose logo community subreddit, knock yourself out - you just won't get the official endorsement from us. That being said, I do have a comment to make to the other opposing members - some people do not wish to centralize community discussions into a Discord server for fears of a lack of preservation in the long run. While yes, it IS convenient in the shorter term...what happens if we undergo another leadership change or for some reason the archives get wiped? How do we think long-term for our community's future? Just my two cents... [[User:Solarstrike|Solarstrike]] ([[User talk:Solarstrike|talk]]) 17:09, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} per EMG and Solarstrike. The server and the forums suit us well enough, there's just no pint [[User:FryLetterman|FryLetterman]] ([[User talk:FryLetterman|talk]]) 02:21, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}}. I don't think one could work, as unlike, say, Wikipedia or TV Tropes, we're still quite a small yet close-knit community. The Discord serves us far better. [[User:Dominicmgm|Dominicmgm]] ([[User talk:Dominicmgm|talk]]) 23:12, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} per others. [[File:Phbsignature.png|90px|link=User:NotPurpleHoodieBoi]] ([[User talk:NotPurpleHoodieBoi|таʟк]]) 10:17, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} per EMG. [[File:EGP Signature.svg|120px|link=User:EsaïeGregoryPrickett]] ([[User talk:EsaïeGregoryPrickett|talk]]) 00:32, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} Denied. We're fine with just the wiki and the Discord server right now. There is no need for a subreddit. And I agree with everyone else. [[User:Green Sprixie Princess|Green]] ([[User talk:Green Sprixie Princess|talk]]) 15:13, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} Not every community needs to have a subreddit. [[File:Pjfrix-mini.png|100px|link=User:PajamaFrix]] 23:17, 5 April 2023 (UTC)


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