AVID:Requests for Comment/Visual tracking categories + add guidelines for creating tracking categories
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- Closing as passed for both proposals. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 18:18, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Considering the recent introduction of the tracking categories have spread across various articles on the site, despite no proposal on this idea, there should be categories for visual-sourced logos. For example, Enterprise Producciones S.A. sourced its footage from the Prism Entertainment logo or Deraco Productions has footage from Terminator 2: Judgement Day. If there are music tracking categories, why not visual-based ones?
On the other hand, as HibiscusCrown20 pointed out in the Discord, we may have an influx of redundant/useless tracking categories such as "Logos that feature the color blue" or "Logos that last more than a minute". The ones I have proposed aren't redundant considering they provide information we may not have known whereas said categories in this paragraph can be applied to way too many logos and are too obvious to point out. So, another proposal I want to make is guidelines for creating tracking categories. That way, people may know what kind of categories are desired for the wiki and not subjective/obvious ones that don't even matter.
On a side note, the visual tracking category, alongside the music tracking one, may be somewhat of a "Logo Rip-Offs" revival except they are both informative and not opinionated. Camenati (talk) 01:08, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
Add visual tracking categories
Support
Support
We already have audio tracking categories, so why not go the full-scale?
★ Nova (talk) 01:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)- Support Logohub (talk) 02:11, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support as per Nova and Logohub.
· Talk · Edits 02:40, 28 November 2022 (UTC) - Support Per Nova. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 04:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support Yes, because we already have categories for stock templates (itself a form of visual tracking). We should be going full-scale with that. SnowflakesOmega (talk) 14:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support Yes, all the yes
(The Third Place) 19:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
Oppose
Abstain
Add guidelines for tracking categories
Support
- Support With all the new tracking categories being made and as I suggested on Discord, I think some guidelines on tracking categories could definitely be needed , as I can easily see pages being inundated with categories that either few would find useful, are redundant or too overly specific for their own good, or generally drag the wiki's quality down. Definitely ban opinionated categories too while we're at it. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 04:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support Per HibiscusCrown20. SnowflakesOmega (talk) 14:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support There is a risk of people creating trivial or opinionated tracking categories. The tracking categories that I created all have a good reason: for example, there are a tracking category for Cascom and Keith Mansfield because of a significant number of logos that use these sources.
I don't think that there is a good case for tracking categories for logos that rip off other logos, because (1) we cannot expect producers to have big budgets like in Hollywood, (2) many logos came from a time before Blender was a serious competitor to 3ds Max, and (3) there is a potential for confusion with stock footage and library music.
Likewise, I use "Logos with popular music" instead of "Logos that stole music" because (1) a producer may have got permission to use the soundtrack, (2) some of the music may be royalty free under certain conditions, and (3) we cannot expect producers to have big budgets like in… err… Hollywood. --Pingu (talk) 19:19, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
Oppose
Abstain
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