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I'm giving this RfC another shot, since no one even took a passing glance at the original (except Nuggie). Camenati said it can't have the same name, so I slightly changed it. So anyways, there's certain pages and/or pictures which have been selected to appear at the start of categories. These are companies that belong in that category, or as for pictures, logos that appear on those aforementioned companies. I think we should let the users vote on which P&Ps (Pages & Pictures) should appear on those categories. It would work like RfCs, FMNs, RfPs etc. Someone would insert the page or the picture they are nominating. Then, (for pictures only), add a description that will be placed underneath the pictures. Then, we would go through the whole Support, Abstain, Oppose thing. Users would have a month to vote. If it succeeds, It would appear at the start of the category, and it would stay there for a month. But if a nominated candidate passes while a previous candidate is still on, it would have to wait until the one before that was taken off. I think this would be good for users who want to visit more pages, and for others who want to promote pages they made. [[User:Sonicfan19198282|Sonicfan19198282]] ([[User talk:Sonicfan19198282|talk]]) 18:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
I'm giving this RfC another shot, since no one even took a passing glance at the original (except Nuggie). Camenati said it can't have the same name, so I slightly changed it. So anyways, there's certain pages and/or pictures which have been selected to appear at the start of categories. These are companies that belong in that category, or as for pictures, logos that appear on those aforementioned companies. I think we should let the users vote on which P&Ps (Pages & Pictures) should appear on those categories. It would work like RfCs, FMNs, RfPs etc. Someone would insert the page or the picture they are nominating. Then, (for pictures only), add a description that will be placed underneath the pictures. Then, we would go through the whole Support, Abstain, Oppose thing. Users would have a month to vote. If it succeeds, It would appear at the start of the category, and it would stay there for a month. But if a nominated candidate passes while a previous candidate is still on, it would have to wait until the one before that was taken off. I think this would be good for users who want to visit more pages, and for others who want to promote pages they made. [[User:Sonicfan19198282|Sonicfan19198282]] ([[User talk:Sonicfan19198282|talk]]) 18:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
===Support===
===Support===
#{{Support}} but (as a suggestion from Hb1290 on the Discord server) as a new section of the main page rather than the portal pages, a la Wikipedia's "Today's Featured Article" section. [[File:T807sig.png|50px|link=User:Trevor807]] '''·''' '''[[User talk:Trevor807|Talk]]''' '''·''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Trevor807|Edits]]''' 04:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
<s>#{{Support}} but (as a suggestion from Hb1290 on the Discord server) as a new section of the main page rather than the portal pages, a la Wikipedia's "Today's Featured Article" section. [[File:T807sig.png|50px|link=User:Trevor807]] '''·''' '''[[User talk:Trevor807|Talk]]''' '''·''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Trevor807|Edits]]''' 04:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)</s>
===Abstain===
===Abstain===
{{Abstain}} As Featured Media Nominations exists for this reason. As for the Category Page thing, I think thats for portals only and not categories. I'm pretty sure Category is for grouping only, i think. Maybe it would work for portals (tho it might be randomized as of current), but until now, im in the middle of the fence. [[File:Charlie signature AVID.png|200px|link=User:Charlie Fiddlesticks]] ([[User talk:Charlie Fiddlesticks|• '''USER TALK!''' •]]) 22:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
{{Abstain}} As Featured Media Nominations exists for this reason. As for the Category Page thing, I think thats for portals only and not categories. I'm pretty sure Category is for grouping only, i think. Maybe it would work for portals (tho it might be randomized as of current), but until now, im in the middle of the fence. [[File:Charlie signature AVID.png|200px|link=User:Charlie Fiddlesticks]] ([[User talk:Charlie Fiddlesticks|• '''USER TALK!''' •]]) 22:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#{{Oppose}}, as voting systems beyond rfcs are being ignored by the general populace, which makes it reasonable to assume that this system will suffer the same fate. [[User:Eternity Media Group|Eternity Media Group]] ([[User talk:Eternity Media Group|talk]]) 02:35, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

===Comments===
===Comments===
*{{Comment}} Wait, what did you mean? [[User:TPatKB|TPatKB (AKA Mr Vadimon)]] ([[User talk:TPatKB|this is my talk page]]) 19:29, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
*{{Comment}} Wait, what did you mean? [[User:TPatKB|TPatKB (AKA Mr Vadimon)]] ([[User talk:TPatKB|this is my talk page]]) 19:29, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
::He is suggesting to have the articles appearing at the top of portal pages decided by a vote rather than the current random selection system. [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] '''''[[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]'''''&nbsp;<b>·</b>&#32;'''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]]''''' 05:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
::He is suggesting to have the articles appearing at the top of portal pages decided by a vote rather than the current random selection system. [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] '''''[[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]'''''&nbsp;<b>·</b>&#32;'''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]]''''' 05:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
*{{comment}} The voting system idea is solid, though I think there's an even better way this could be implemented. See my proposal below for more details. [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] '''''[[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]'''''&nbsp;<b>·</b>&#32;'''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]]''''' 05:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
<s>*{{comment}} The voting system idea is solid, though I think there's an even better way this could be implemented. See my proposal below for more details. [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] '''''[[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]'''''&nbsp;<b>·</b>&#32;'''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]]''''' 05:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)</s>
{{Archive top|Withdrawing after considering Raidarr's comments and the situation with WikiProjects. After all, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and expecting different results. [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] '''''[[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]'''''&nbsp;<b>·</b>&#32;'''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]]''''' 01:55, 30 September 2023 (UTC)}}

==Proposal 2: Implement the above voting system not for the portal pages, but in a dedicated section on the main page==
==Proposal 2: Implement the above voting system not for the portal pages, but in a dedicated section on the main page==
The voting system proposed by {{ping|Sonicfan19198282}} is definitely a solid idea, though I believe it might fit better in a section on the main page, like Wikipedia's "Today's Featured Article". We could set up a project page for such votes. Some may recall that I actually once experimented with a featured article on the main page, though it didn't really work as there was no system behind it. Sonicfan's voting system could be what we need to make this work properly this time. [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] '''''[[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]'''''&nbsp;<b>·</b>&#32;'''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]]''''' 05:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
The voting system proposed by {{ping|Sonicfan19198282}} is definitely a solid idea, though I believe it might fit better in a section on the main page, like Wikipedia's "Today's Featured Article". We could set up a project page for such votes. Some may recall that I actually once experimented with a featured article on the main page, though it didn't really work as there was no system behind it. Sonicfan's voting system could be what we need to make this work properly this time. [[File:sig.png|100px|link=User:Hb1290]] '''''[[User talk:Hb1290|Talk]]'''''&nbsp;<b>·</b>&#32;'''''[[Special:Contributions/Hb1290|Edits]]''''' 05:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
==Support==
===Support===
#{{Support}} but we need to fully flesh out a featured articles system first. Decide the criteria etc. [[User:Logoarto|Logoarto]] ([[User talk:Logoarto|talk]]) 05:44, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
==Abstain==
#{{Support}} per Logoarto. [[File:T807sig.png|50px|link=User:Trevor807]] '''·''' '''[[User talk:Trevor807|Talk]]''' '''·''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Trevor807|Edits]]''' 11:08, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
==Oppose==
#{{Support}} I can understand this one a bit better than the previous one, and this does sound good since the main page barely has anything besides recent activity. [[File:Charlie signature AVID.png|200px|link=User:Charlie Fiddlesticks]] ([[User talk:Charlie Fiddlesticks|• '''USER TALK!''' •]]) 12:18, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
==Comments==
#{{Support}} Per everyrone [[User:TPatKB|TPatKB (AKA Mr Vadimon)]] ([[User talk:TPatKB|this is my talk page]]) 15:09, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


===Abstain===
===Oppose===
===Comments===
==General Comments==
*{{comment}} Goodie, yet another voting structure that needs to be maintained, appended by a project page when the project system has been such a [[AVID:Request_a_Project|shining light of success]]. Has avid not yet learned that adding more and more voting structures for unnecessary functions is not wise? The second idea falls into this but at least applies to a truly significant page while the first idea is particularly useless: an entire voting system for a category that is not intended to be reading pages. Just, pick an image, and if people disagree, ''then'' consider voting about it ''if necessary''. --[[User:Raidarr|Raidarr]] ([[User talk:Raidarr|talk]]) 08:24, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
** We've already been realizing that AVIDProjects has been a failure. A poll was created on the server to decide if we should put it out of its misery. [[File:T807sig.png|50px|link=User:Trevor807]] '''·''' '''[[User talk:Trevor807|Talk]]''' '''·''' '''[[Special:Contributions/Trevor807|Edits]]''' 11:08, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
***@Trevor807 So is that why AVIDProjects is so empty? [[User:TPatKB|TPatKB (AKA Mr Vadimon)]] ([[User talk:TPatKB|this is my talk page]]) 15:09, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 02:35, 30 September 2023

Restarting... Again.

I'm giving this RfC another shot, since no one even took a passing glance at the original (except Nuggie). Camenati said it can't have the same name, so I slightly changed it. So anyways, there's certain pages and/or pictures which have been selected to appear at the start of categories. These are companies that belong in that category, or as for pictures, logos that appear on those aforementioned companies. I think we should let the users vote on which P&Ps (Pages & Pictures) should appear on those categories. It would work like RfCs, FMNs, RfPs etc. Someone would insert the page or the picture they are nominating. Then, (for pictures only), add a description that will be placed underneath the pictures. Then, we would go through the whole Support, Abstain, Oppose thing. Users would have a month to vote. If it succeeds, It would appear at the start of the category, and it would stay there for a month. But if a nominated candidate passes while a previous candidate is still on, it would have to wait until the one before that was taken off. I think this would be good for users who want to visit more pages, and for others who want to promote pages they made. Sonicfan19198282 (talk) 18:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Support

# Support but (as a suggestion from Hb1290 on the Discord server) as a new section of the main page rather than the portal pages, a la Wikipedia's "Today's Featured Article" section. · Talk · Edits 04:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Abstain

 Abstain As Featured Media Nominations exists for this reason. As for the Category Page thing, I think thats for portals only and not categories. I'm pretty sure Category is for grouping only, i think. Maybe it would work for portals (tho it might be randomized as of current), but until now, im in the middle of the fence. (USER TALK!) 22:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Oppose, as voting systems beyond rfcs are being ignored by the general populace, which makes it reasonable to assume that this system will suffer the same fate. Eternity Media Group (talk) 02:35, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments

He is suggesting to have the articles appearing at the top of portal pages decided by a vote rather than the current random selection system. Talk · Edits 05:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

* Comment: The voting system idea is solid, though I think there's an even better way this could be implemented. See my proposal below for more details. Talk · Edits 05:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


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