Forum:IMPORTANT: AVID will be migrating to MyWikis

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You might notice that the wiki has several problems that have been occurring for the past year, including frequent outages that went on for days, various glitches, server errors, and other mishaps.

Because of said ongoing problems, we have explored other options to host our wiki, and a few months ago, we have negotiated with and finally got a good deal and arrangement with MyWikis, a wiki hosting service that has been around for a good 10+ years.

Our admins have finished backing up images and pages for the past two months and the migration will begin in a few days. Therefore, effective immediately, the wiki will be temporarily locked down from editing for the time being.

The wiki's forum would still be open for posting however. Once the new wiki is set up, we will inform you again to create new accounts on the site.

Thank you for the attention and please stay tuned to the AVID community Discord server or the forums for further updates.

-- AVID Staff


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5 September 2024

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Okay! That was a brief visit in wikiforge! I just saw the new platform and I have a question: What plan are you paying for?


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5 September 2024

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Thank you for your service, Wikiforge. Now we are yet again onto a new era of AVID!


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  • if i swear this period is only 1 month i will legit fall off a cliff*. Seriously, WikiForge in the latter 6 months was a good thing. The early 6 months were not good but yeah, I hope y'all don't move to yet another wikifarm after this move. Hopefully a UI refresh follows. One thing though is WikiForge won't display AVID Sans Book and the school blocks the images, therefore it may be good.

Be glad this wasn't WikiFoundry though!


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*if i swear this period is only 1 month i will legit fall off a cliff*. Seriously, WikiForge in the latter 6 months was a good thing. The early 6 months were not good but yeah, I hope y'all don't move to yet another wikifarm after this move. Hopefully a UI refresh follows. One thing though is WikiForge won't display AVID Sans Book and the school blocks the images, therefore it may be good. Be glad this wasn't WikiFoundry though!

Actually, it's been more than a year since we moved to WikiForge.


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JrStudios
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I'm talking about if we move to MyWikis and move after 1 month then I will get angry.


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ok


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Additionally, if we do go through MyWikis, I found out unless y'all paid for enterprise, we would have to downgrade to LTS, as that is the cost, and OSCA would need to be a bigger payment.


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But why? If we should continue editing, creating drafts and uploading new images in AVID, why did you make the option to migrate to Mywiki?


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But why? If we should continue editing, creating drafts and uploading new images in AVID, why did you make the option to migrate to Mywiki?

Stability in the long run according to Logoarto. However we would need either the Ultra (personal) wiki plan or the Enterprise (business) plan. I think AVID has one of those two plans.


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Stability in the long run according to Logoarto. However we would need either the Ultra (personal) wiki plan or the Enterprise (business) plan. I think AVID has one of those two plans.

How do you know? I joined AVID in 2023, so I'm new. How do you know these things if the AVID Staffs recently announced that they will migrate us to MyWikis?


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Educated guessing. I researched MyWikis' prices and saw what our wiki would likely need. Therefore, I came up with my theory. If an admin steps in and corrects me, go ahead.


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Stability in the long run according to Logoarto. However we would need either the Ultra (personal) wiki plan or the Enterprise (business) plan. I think AVID has one of those two plans.

Ok


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5 September 2024

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I have not edited on this wiki a while ago, but when I see the notice, it seems that I'm gonna make my new account. I hope that the migration will be better.

As I say, thank you WikiForge for providing that for a year.


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5 September 2024

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How many dang times has this wiki moved in the past 10 years? @_@ It feels like 3 or 4 now.


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5 September 2024

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Alas WikiForge, it has been a good run.

As for the MyWikis migration, I am being cautiously optimistic about this...


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You might notice that the wiki has several problems that have been occurring for the past year, including frequent outages that went on for days, various glitches, server errors, and other mishaps.

Because of said ongoing problems, we have explored other options to host our wiki, and a few months ago, we have negotiated with and finally got a good deal and arrangement with MyWikis, a wiki hosting service that has been around for a good 10+ years.

Our admins have finished backing up images and pages for the past two months and the migration will begin in a few days. Therefore, effective immediately, the wiki will be temporarily locked down from editing for the time being.

The wiki's forum would still be open for posting however. Once the new wiki is set up, we will inform you again to create new accounts on the site.

Thank you for the attention and please stay tuned to the AVID community Discord server or the forums for further updates.

-- AVID Staff

How long do we have to migrate to MyWikis, Logoarto?


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How many dang times has this wiki moved in the past 10 years? @_@ It feels like 3 or 4 now.

Yeah, three. After seven years with WikiFoundry we moved to Miraheze in 2020 after continuing issues with Travis (WikiFoundry's owner who we had a very stormy relationship with), then to WikiForge last year due to internal conflicts in Miraheze that were going on at the time. Now we're moving to MyWikis because of the issues Logoarto mentioned (WikiForge's Discord server being deleted doesn't help, either).


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Yeah, three. After seven years with WikiFoundry we moved to Miraheze in 2020 after continuing issues with Travis (WikiFoundry's owner who we had a very stormy relationship with), then to WikiForge last year due to internal conflicts in Miraheze that were going on at the time. Now we're moving to MyWikis because of the issues Logoarto mentioned (WikiForge's Discord server being deleted doesn't help, either

I get wanting to avoid Fandom Wiki (one of the reasons I got an adblocker since that's where the wikis for just about every other interest of mine are), but why are the alternatives so unstable? Geez Louise.


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5 September 2024

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Well, let's hope for the best!


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I generally do hope for the best for this place, but unrelated note, I'm trying to join the Discord server, just for it to not recognize me even when I tried the steps.

(Also, please fix the rank issue on me.)


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CKE
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6 September 2024

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Gosh dangit.

Welp, hopefully things won't get worse on MyWikis.


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Ashley Taylor
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6 September 2024

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Can't wait for AVID to get MyWiki Pro.


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DaffyBoi
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6 September 2024

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Oh come on.....


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6 September 2024

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Will the URL change?


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6 September 2024

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Will the URL change?

I hope not. It probably wouldn't anyway since I think the URL for the Miraheze site is also avid.wiki.


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6 September 2024

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Will the URL change?

The URL will be a-ok


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6 September 2024

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let's hope for the best.


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How long do we have to migrate to MyWikis?


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VT5489
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6 September 2024

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Moving Again?


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6 September 2024

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Another wiki migration after less than a year and a half. I faced a bunch of problems on AVID during its time on WikiForge, including a slowdown in September last year and the website going down in June this year. I hope MyWikis doesn't suffer similar issues.


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Another wiki migration after less than a year and a half. I faced a bunch of problems on AVID during its time on WikiForge, including a slowdown in September last year and the website going down in June this year. I hope MyWikis doesn't suffer similar issues.

MyWikis should hopefully be more stable. It's been around since 2012.


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What would happen to draft pages after the migration? Some draft pages include AVRO, CBeebies, Vizio, NBC Sports, AMC Theatres, Mediacorp Studios, etc.


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Hi UWM, draft pages have been saved in our XML backup. The DataDump feature we use to back up our wiki's text contents has the option for us to back up text from all namespaces, which includes Drafts, so you should be able to resume work on any Drafts you have once the move wraps up. Hope this helps! :)


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8 September 2024

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So long WikiForge then. It was good fun with you.


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8 September 2024

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do we need to back up our accounts (dumb question ik)


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MrSean64
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9 September 2024

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If I sign up, what's gonna happen to all my information from my current account I have here? Will it be all gone?


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Trevor807
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9 September 2024

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If I sign up, what's gonna happen to all my information from my current account I have here? Will it be all gone?

Your current edit summary will be imported during the migration.


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Michael Kenchington
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9 September 2024

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What about my current account as well Trevor807?


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9 September 2024

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When is left for AVID to Immigrate to MyWikis?


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Trevor807
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What about my current account as well Trevor807?

You'll need to sign up again.


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Michael Kenchington
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10 September 2024

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Oh, okay. Thanks Trevor807.


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Logofreak98
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13 September 2024

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Any word on an ETA?


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Trevor807
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13 September 2024

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Not yet AFAIK.


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14 September 2024

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Your current edit summary will be imported during the migration.

would my MyWikis era edits be counted separately from my WikiForge era edits? Like how my WikiForge era edits were counted seperataely from my Miraheze era edits?


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also am I able to use the 2017 wikitext editor instead of the 2010 one? Im more used to that because I edit on Fandom and I use the 2017 wikitext editor there. Also, it is easier to do MsUpload (instead of downloading the files manually, I can just simply and drag and drop them, which I cannot do the 2010 wikitext editor)


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also am I able to use the 2017 wikitext editor instead of the 2010 one? Im more used to that because I edit on Fandom and I use the 2017 wikitext editor there. Also, it is easier to do MsUpload (instead of downloading the files manually, I can just simply and drag and drop them, which I cannot do the 2010 wikitext editor)
No Download files? :-(

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15 September 2024

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me who edits all the time: yep chat we are cooked


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15 September 2024

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Will i be able to claim my edit history? Like, will there be a Special:ClaimExternalAccount page or something?


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15 September 2024

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Will i be able to claim my edit history? Like, will there be a Special:ClaimExternalAccount page or something?
Yes, you will.

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15 September 2024

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those who dissent, will become callous.


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LogoBoost
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15 September 2024

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I would like us to have an independent AVID Wiki. Although I know that would be mission impossible


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15 September 2024

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When will the move be concluded?


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16 September 2024

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I would like us to have an independent AVID Wiki. Although I know that would be mission impossible

What's not independent about AVID now?


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JrStudios
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16 September 2024

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They are referencing to the fact we are always hosted on a wikifarm.


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Michael Kenchington
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17 September 2024

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Wikifarm? What's a Wikifarm?

I'm suspicious IMO.


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JrStudios
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17 September 2024

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Another term for wiki hosting service,


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Vmoney25
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19 September 2024

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Has the wiki already began moving? If not, when, so I can edit stuff again?


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19 September 2024

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Wikifarm? What's a Wikifarm? I'm suspicious IMO.

AVID has been hosted on wikifarms throughout its life. The only reason it hasn't outgrown them entirely is because there aren't enough technicians native to AVID, or other means to do that on its own.


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19 September 2024

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When can we edit now? Or when is the migration going to start?


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Hi everyone! While the ball is still rolling with MyWikis, things are still getting set up at the moment. We'll let the forum know of any updates on the migration and new home when they become available and/or ready. Cheers! :)


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Something just occurred to me: Are forum posts going to migrate or are they going to have to start all over again as usual? Because the logos with unknown music thread is pretty important, I've found something I want to add but I don't know if it'll be worth it since we're moving now. :/


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Something just occurred to me: Are forum posts going to migrate or are they going to have to start all over again as usual? Because the logos with unknown music thread is pretty important, I've found something I want to add but I don't know if it'll be worth it since we're moving now. :/

Seeing as the old forum posts from the Miraheze era migrated over to WikiForge during the move last year, I'm assuming that's going to be the case again, since we've considered requesting MyWikis for the forum extension.

Personally, I'd add whatever you want to post to the forum anyway, if you're hesitating.


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Well, it nice knowing you WikiForge. You helped us when we switched to AVID and when Miraheze was shutting down. Goodbye wikiforge


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How long should we upload images?


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CKE
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24 September 2024

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How long should we upload images?

They disabled image uploading.


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They disabled image uploading.

How long will it take to re-enable Uploading images?


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CKE
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How long will it take to re-enable Uploading images?

To be honest, Idk.


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3 October 2024

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Editing is disabled again... I was about to make a page today


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Trevor807
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3 October 2024

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Editing is disabled again... I was about to make a page today

Yeah, we got more announcements coming at a later time.


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This is what I really call AVID Quarantine


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Kbcars123456
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Agreed.


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CKE
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4 October 2024

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This is what I really call AVID Quarantine

Good joke


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4 October 2024

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See you around, new AVID!


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4 October 2024

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Good joke

If we should continue editing, creating drafts and uploading new images in AVID, why did you make the option to migrate to Mywiki?


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Trevor807
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4 October 2024

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Because of everything Logoarto stated at the very top.


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4 October 2024

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Let me know when you will be ready


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4 October 2024

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cool, but will the url be something along the lines of [avid.mywikis.com] ? Because the Mywikis URL is blocked on my computer


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This is what I really call AVID Quarantine
Agreed.

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cool, but will the url be something along the lines of [avid.mywikis.com] ? Because the Mywikis URL is blocked on my computer

Weird how wiki URLs are blocked. As for the URL, I'm pretty sure the current one is going to stay.


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Weird how wiki URLs are blocked. As for the URL, I'm pretty sure the current one is going to stay.

Me too, but is not working


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CKE
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If we should continue editing, creating drafts and uploading new images in AVID, why did you make the option to migrate to Mywiki?

Logoarto said the reason why is because of “frequent outages that went on for days, various glitches, server errors, and other mishaps.”


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Are you almost ready to start migrating? Therefore someone or even myself will have to create a Minimax draft page...


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6 October 2024

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It's a shame that we have to move again so soon after the previous one, but I get it. The site's been kinda broken on WikiForge.


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6 October 2024

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Ik but we need to move on, I’ll miss it too


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UWMGraphics
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7 October 2024

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What about the submitted drafts? Three drafts were submitted for review including Liv TV, LRT TV, and NBC Sports.


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Trevor807
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7 October 2024

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Submitted drafts are being imported too.


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Logofan2003
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7 October 2024

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I wonder if the Polish television idents pages are being imported too


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CKE
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7 October 2024

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I think they are.


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Trevor807
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7 October 2024

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We're importing those too, yes.


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Logofan2003
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8 October 2024

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I hope the design of the page will change but everything will stay the same


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CKE
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8 October 2024

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I hope the design of the page will change but everything will stay the same

I think so. Hopefully it will.


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Trevor807
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8 October 2024

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Our current look is more than likely staying after the migration.


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Logofan2003
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9 October 2024

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So when you will be migrating i am starting to get worried


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CKE
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9 October 2024

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Probably sometime.


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Trevor807
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9 October 2024

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Be patient: we still don't have a deadline yet.


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12 October 2024

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There are still many Polish TV Idents and other logos from around the world to be described like TVN Style


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CKE
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12 October 2024

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Um yeah? What's with you and Polish TV idents?

Not being mean or anything


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12 October 2024

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They just need to be described because they defined my childhood


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CKE
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They just need to be described because they defined my childhood

Oh ok


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12 October 2024

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I am glad you understand


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15 October 2024

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I've just heard that the migration was canceled...


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15 October 2024

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I guess I will get my Minimax and TVN Style pages here then


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Trevor807
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15 October 2024

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It's true: the migration will no longer proceed.


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CKE
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15 October 2024

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It's true: the migration will no longer proceed.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


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Why cancel the migration? It had good intentions and plus WikiForge is proven to not able to handle millions of users on AVID.


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Because MyWikis can't handle it either.


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Please read our recent announcement here: https://www.avid.wiki/Forum:Announcement_regarding_our_move_to_MyWikis

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