User talk:TheRealMarcel2000

Concern

For some odd reason, you are removing nicknames from logo pages. Care to explain why?

A LogoFun13-YT Post / (talk) / 01:06, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Is there a reason why you keep changing my information? Wonderful Boy (talk) 00:18, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Because I don't like you edit several pages by each user (for example, SuperMax124), Jackson! TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 00:26, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

WTF? You changed all my information again? Is it okay if you don't do that? I added correct information to logos and it is so fun! Is it OK if you just revert it all back? Don't Change My Information (talk) 15:22, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Dude, you're wasting all those pages! So scram! TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 15:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

I love the new Disney 100 Years logo. Where did you get the new full-screen logo that says "100 Years of Wonder"?

97kaylum1 (talk) 00:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

It was found on Ians453's YouTube user. TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 13:23, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

I heard it appeared on the 2022 D23 Expo Daily recap livestream on Disney+. But when did Disney+ ever did livestreams. It didn't really happen before and i would love to see it in the 2022 D23 Expo Daily recap livestream. 97kaylum1 (talk) 16:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

I heard that the short version of the Disney100 logo appeared at the end of the international versions of Strange World. Where did you hear it? 97kaylum1 (talk) 09:22, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

May 2022

Hello can you add the descriptions on the Dave (UK) and Gold (UK) articles please? Blue2000 (talk) 10:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hi, TheRealMarcel2000. It appears you are engaging in an edit war at Disney+ Originals. This is when users disagree over the content of an article and repeatedly revert each other's edits. This type of editing is disruptive and unproductive. Please discuss the issue on the article's talk page before editing further. Thank You. Logohub (talk) 16:24, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

According to SuperMax124, the 2020 remake of Mulan didn't have this logo. But I hope it's right or not. TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 16:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Notice regarding edit warring

Please stop repeatedly reverting other people's edits as you have been at Schneider's Bakery. Your behavior is considered edit warring and will result in a block if it continues. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 22:58, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Listen, I have more major grammars in this wiki, so don't block me again! TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 23:02, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I won't block you as long as you don't edit war again. Please understand that, as the previous warning message you were given regarding this issue states, edit warring with others is disruptive and accomplishes nothing. If you're having any problems with another editor over an article and/or its contents, please talk things out with them on their talk page or the article's talk page. Thank you. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 23:09, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Notification of temporary sitewide block

Hello, TheRealMarcel2000, after seeing that you have engaged in another edit war after your second warning was given, I have decided to temporarily block your account for one day for that reason. Please understand that we do not want other editors to edit war with each other as it is considered counterproductive and disruptive. During the duration of this block, I suggest you review our site rules and policy, and please remember to discuss any edit conflicts with other users on their talk page or the article's talk page in a civil manner. Continuing to edit war with others after this point may result in additional and lengthier blocks being applied to your account. Thank you. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 03:02, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Regarding your recent edits to GK Productions

Hi, please don't insert sections that have no content on mainspace pages, as we don't desire such additions for quality control reasons. You may work on unfinished sections of pages in your sandbox. Thank you! HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 14:32, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

This is your second warning with your recent edit on the Original Media page. Additionally, as a reminder, please avoid using the FX/SFX section to describe what's moving in the logo, as we have since repurposed that section to focus on what kind of animation was used to make the logo. Thank you. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 21:20, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I'm busy! TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 21:23, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

This is your third warning with your edits on the Glo Nation and April Blair's Company pages. Continuing to add blank sections and misuse the FX/SFX sections may result in a temporary block. Logohub (talk) 02:35, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Notification of temporary sitewide block

HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 02:14, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Final warning regarding CBeebies IDs

Hello, I am an administrator for the wiki. I was alerted on how you added empty sections to the CBeebies IDs article. Considering how you were warned multiple times for adding blank sections to various articles in the past, I feel this shall be your final warning. If you add blank sections to articles past this warning, you will blocked indefinitely from the wiki. Thank you and have a good day. IAmThe789Guy (talk) 12:38, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Help on Universal Remote

Are you able to figure out who actually owns this company? I've had to remove the Background section until further notice. SuperMax124 (talk) 15:39, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Maybe Steven Yeun owns that company, so I decided to edit the Universal Remote page. TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 17:16, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I've had a hard time trying to do that thing. SuperMax124 (talk) 23:11, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Regarding blank sections

We know it's easy to put in blank sections as "placeholders" or "saving for later" in mainspace articles because it's convenient. However, putting these in the mainspace may upset new visitors expecting information to be there, when it isn't - and that's just the tip of the iceberg. I know you mean well and want to save those sections for later, but try to save big edits in a sandbox or a draft space rather than directly editing the article itself - go for a big burst once the major edit is ready. Just giving you my two cents regarding the situation. Solarstrike (talk) 17:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Help on Hot Seat Productions and Swindle

Are you able to figure out who owns both companies? I've been stuck on this for a while now. SuperMax124 (talk) 20:57, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Probably it's James Weaver (Swindle) and Frank Rich (Hot Seat Productions). TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 21:38, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you SuperMax124 (talk) 21:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

'80s "War of the Worlds" series

This topic-of-sorts is on a logo mystery I seem to be having right now. TheOddKid2568 claims that the 1988 War of the Worlds television series used the logo for Ten Four Productions on season 1 and the third Hometown Films logo on season 2. While Ten Four produced season 1 without a doubt, I'm not sure if Hometown Films actually did season 2, since you edited that company's page to make clear that the company's logo was not on WotW. Therefore, I'm wondering if Ten Four did the whole series or if Hometown Films at least co-produced season 2 with Ten Four. (I might need to put this on the Logo Urban Legends page too, but I'm not entirely sure yet.) UPDATE: Actually, scratch that. Hometown Films' 3rd logo was in fact on WotW season 2, as proven by Camenati. AUnnamedDragon 1:39 PM, June 27, 2023 (CET; I'm not good with signatures sadly)

Regarding references and citations.

Please do not remove references and citations from pages. Thank you VortexArto (talk) 06:25, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Tsiporah Productions was made by Studio At New Wave Entertainment.

When i was a kid in 2009/2010, i was on the web, and found out that the Tsiporah logo was made by New Wave Entertainment, who also made logos for companies like, Yari Film Group Releasings, Tollbooth TV, Stratus Film Company, The Donners Company, Samuels Media, After Portsmouth, Berlanti Television and Prospect Pictures. that was 100 percent a true story i experience. Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 01:42, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Tsiporah Productions was made by Studio At New Wave Entertainment.

When i was a kid in 2009/2010, i was on the web, and found out that the Tsiporah logo was made by New Wave Entertainment, who also made logos for companies like, Yari Film Group Releasings, Tollbooth TV, Stratus Film Company, The Donners Company, Samuels Media, After Portsmouth, Berlanti Television and Prospect Pictures. that was 100 percent a true story i experience. Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 01:45, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

I know it! Don't worry dude, I'll make them soon. TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 01:48, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Quill Entertainment logo was designed by Wunderfilm

another 100 percent true story i experience, i learned that the Quill Entertainment logo was designed by Wunderfilm, who also designed the main title design of Bent. i saw it on the web. Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 12:26, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Fuse Entertainment logo was designed by Big Machine Design.

this is a true story i learned. this logo was designed by a company called Big Machine Design, i saw that on a reel of their work. Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 22:31, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Found this you can add

https://vimeo.com/667970834 Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 23:28, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Check this out

http://wunderfilm.com/assets/wunderfilm-clients.pdf Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 19:08, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

A Pennette & Henchy Production logo was designed by Bonnie Timmons.

Stephen Engel Productions logo was animated by Bill Plympton Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 19:25, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Instead of informing others of what you found, why not add them to the articles? Camenati (talk) 19:48, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

I added everything, Camenati. So they're almost okay, according to the client list of WunderFilm. TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 20:14, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

I have an assigment for you

There is this company called Framework Studio which is design company and it have made some very good logos.

https://vimeo.com/frameworkla Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 17:44, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

i think I found a huge goldmine

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/755675.html

there are hundreds of companies that have made so many types of logos. I would like for you to investigate and check their websites using web.archive.org and also search logos on vimeo. This might be a great idea Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 14:37, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Found more information.

https://www.bryant-johnsen.com/html/tv_company_logos.html Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 18:56, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

I love You Julian vanity card trivia

That logo changes every episode because according to Reddit user Cowstein (which is actually the company’s owner) he wanted to see his son Julian grow as time went on. “every episode with a different photo of him... so as the show grows I can watch him grow too.” Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 22:35, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Colton & Aboud are Vh1 panelists

I was watching a Vh1 countdown show and saw the words Colton & Aboud shown in the bottom left row. It made an appearance on 100 most shocking music moments, even though it was not an official logo. Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 18:35, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

could you add new descriptions for logos that have captured or have didn’t captured on this wiki yet

Red Meat Inc, (taken from The Preston Episodes), Black Rose Productions (taken from the show), Table Six Productions (taken from The Ex List), Occasionally Brillant (taken from Live Shot), Subway Productions (taken from Too Something and Party Girl), Rebel Heart Productions (taken from The Monroes and Leaving LA), Film Fatale (taken from Social Studies), Writer’s Workbench Films, Thania St. John Project

Could you check my uploads

I uploaded some photos in the wiki a couple weeks ago. Could you help me with those please by checking at my profile. Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Found another fictional company logo

I think I found another fictional company logo you might wanna add. I’m hooked on the show Kiff, and there is this production company called Foxhole Productions (owned by Roy Fox, who is also the father of Candle Fox, one of Kiff’s friends). I think this might be a good one. Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 18:12, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

We got a bogus logo combo

I found out that someone uploaded the logo combo of Bad Mangament which this one is bogus. This real combo was Merman Films, Kapital Enetertainment/ Likkel Hoberg/ AbC studios (2013 logo). This is what I remembered from 10 years ago, I need your help on finding the Likkel Hoberg/Kapital Entertainment. No one had ever found it yet. True story, 10 years ago, ABC has put the pilot online to the public and thousands watched it, I was one of them. Which is why this is important Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 14:27, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Rare logo combo

Did you found the logo combo Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 14:54, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, the Likkel Hoberg/Kapital Entertainment logo combo is not there! TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 15:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

This is very rare.

how did nobody didn’t capture that logo without noticing, it existed. Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 15:05, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

I made a draft for this.

Draft:Likkel Hoberg Chatterleybuns38 (talk) 15:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Hmmmm. Don't worry, I'll make a missing logo as soon as possible. TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 15:25, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Regarding your recent draft move

Hello, TheRealMarcel2000. Although you are an experienced editor on the wiki and submitting drafts for review are optional for autoconfirmed users, please thoroughly check if the page follows editing guidelines and meets the requirements for drafts to be approved for mainspace for quality control. The draft in particular contains use of POV terms, which were left intact when the page was moved to mainspace. Thanks in advance. Camenati (talk) 19:05, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for readding the Warner Bros. Pictures and Legendary Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire logo variations!

Hello there, TheRealMarcel2000. I want to thank you for readding the Warner Bros. Pictures and Legendary Pictures logo variations for Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire. I temporarily removed both variants because I wasn't sure if GxK: TNE had the normal logos or variants. but after you found a video with both variants, it turned out both variations were real after all!

So, what do both variants look like (based on what you saw from the video containing both variants)? Shawn the Logo Fan 2006 (talk) 18:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Warning regarding edit warring

Hello, TheRealMarcel2000. It appears you have edit warred on the Bill Oakley/Josh Weinstein Productions page by repeatedly reverting another user's edits. As you have been reminded in the past, edit warring does not solve disputes and is unproductive in nature. If you see your edits have been reverted, you should discuss the issue with the user or on the article's talk page before editing further. If you are unwilling to talk through the conflict with the opposing user the next time you undo their edits without explaining to them why their edit was invalid, you may receive a temporary ban considering several other rule violations over the course of one year. Considering the last time your previous ban was received, it should not be too long. Thank you. Camenati (talk) 17:23, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Notification of temporary sitewide block

After seeing you have plagiarized a company's background in the Purveyors of Pop page, and taking into account your previous warnings over the past several months, I have decided to issue a short, temporary ban on your account. Please note that plagiarism is not permitted on the wiki for dishonesty, lack of credibility, and redundancy, in addition to being a violation of a site's intellectual property rights. Considering you have violated multiple rules in the past, please be sure to re-visit the site rules and tutorial guide for more guidelines to follow and what to avoid when editing articles. Thank you for your understanding. Camenati (talk) 21:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Warner Bros. Pictures Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga logo variation

Hello again, TheRealMarcel2000. I want to talk about the Warner Bros. Pictures logo seen on Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga. I undid Sebastianpc's edit on the Warner Bros. Pictures/Logo Variations page because I wasn't sure what that variant looked like yet. So, what do you think the Warner Bros. logo looks like at the start of Furiosa?

It can be A:

A modified version the logo found at the start of Mad Max: Fury Road, with the 2023 WB shield and the WBD byline.

B:

An extended version of the second trailer variant.

Or C: a different variation that wasn't seen in the trailers. Would you mind finding a video of the opening logos for Furiosa? Once you find the logo combo, then we can add the description back. Shawn the Logo Fan 2006 (talk) 17:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

You know, I gonna find the opening logos of Furiosa as soon as possible. TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 18:04, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Warning regarding plagiarism

Hello TheRealMarcel2000, in spite of a previous block that was a result of you plagiarizing a company's background from a credible website, it appears you are continuing to violate this rule with your plagiarism of Wikipedia articles in the LOL Studios and 2waytraffic articles. As you have been told in the past, we discourage copying information from an outside source verbatim as that violates those site's intellectual property rights, on top of dishonesty among our editors who may not know how to write these kinds of information. If the source of a site must be stated exactly as how it reads, you should put it in quotations and attach the source of the website URL to give it credit. Otherwise, no credibility means we wrote this information in spite of it being stolen from another site. If you continue to plagiarize information, you may be blocked again. I will be keeping an eye on any future edits from you if it falls onto either said rule, edit warring, or others you have previously violated. Thank you. Camenati (talk) 22:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

You have been warned again for plagiarism for mostly lifting the background of I Can & I Will Productions from either its Instagram profile or Diary of a Future President Wiki's article on the company. Once again, and please keep this in mind, continued rule violations, which includes plagiarism, edit warring, and other rules, may result in another, lengthier ban. Camenati (talk)

Notification of temporary sitewide block

Camenati (talk) 22:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Temporary sitewide block notice

Hello, TheRealMarcel2000. Normally, I would issue a warning regarding edit warring at this moment, after seeing you reverted another user's edits on more than ten articles today. However, after seeing you have continuously edit warred with BeerForMyBacon for many days without acknowledging previous warnings telling you to discuss these conflicting edits with that user, you have been blocked yet again for persistently engaging in such behavior, this time at a lengthier period after taking into account your previous temporary blocks. Please note that when you repeatedly revert another user's edit without constructive feedback or reason, you are not resolving the situation. You are continuing to let these differing views on these edits keep going without a proper solution or discussion. When this continues, readers will constantly find that conflicting information to be added and removed again and again, which is considered disruptive and will confuse them further, questioning if they are valid or not. Next time, I hope you keep this notice very seriously, considering you were warned multiple times about it in the past. Granted, some of it is done to combat false information, but in this case, the edit removals do not violate a rule in an obvious or strong manner. Once again, further supervision may be enacted upon your edits when you return. Further editing guideline violations will result in a lengthier ban. Thank you for your understanding. Camenati (talk) 22:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Temporary sitewide block notice

You appear to have approved this article for mainspace even though it contains misuse (specifically the invalid term "Technique: None") and missing a now-required section (galleries). This, in spite of a previous reminder telling you to thoroughly check draft articles if they follow editing guidelines before approving them for mainspace. If you miss the misuse and missing required section found in the draft article by accident, please let me know. However, please keep in mind that galleries are required, particularly in mainspace articles. This was the reason why it was moved back to draftspace, as it does not consistently follow the formatting and appearance of most articles on the wiki. Since this occured months ago, this could be a result of indirect edit warring, so again, if this was accidental, you can reply to this notice reminding me and I will consider this ban. However, next time, when a conflicting edit occurred months ago and you are about to revert it later on, please discuss it with the conflicting user before editing further. Unless you can appeal this ban, I suggest working out the main points that led to this ban, which includes rewording information you are about to insert for a company's background, checking every aspect of an article if they are missing required sections and contain misuse, and examine the history so that edit wars cannot be indirectly started. Thank you for your understanding. Camenati (talk) 20:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

And one last thing to add to this notice: this is technically approving a declined draft. Although the declining message was not directly stated in the draft template or left in the article, you may want to check the history to understand the reasoning behind this rejection. Lastly, I want to link you to the site rules and tutorial guide again as these rule violations are continuing. Hopefully, you will understand what is desired and not desired, as there is plenty of room for improvement when you return. Camenati (talk) 21:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

A final word of caution

Welcome back to AVID, TheRealMarcel2000. I hope you have learned well from your previous temporary ban. Staff has discussed about the many blocks and warnings you have received throughout your time on the wiki and we want to issue you this final warning when you return. This is something that does not often happen with users when they return from a lengthy ban, but because you have been warned and blocked multiple times due to edit warring, plagiarism, or other editing guideline violations, yet continuing to undermine them by partaking in such behavior again (and this spans for more than two years despite no block being issued for the duration of one year), I on behalf of staff want to ask you to please consider those warnings and block reasons or else an indefinite ban will be issued if you violate any further rules. If you have already reviewed and applied what you read from the site rules and tutorial guide, now is the time to put those skills to use, but if you really want to be extra careful, attentively analyzing each rule to catch those you may have missed or need further practice on will greatly help. At this moment, in spite of your two week ban ending, you are unfortunately closer than ever to being permanently disallowed from editing on the wiki. A part of that would stain for the database considering your solid contributions to many articles, notably vanity plates. Please be sure to keep that up or else. Thank you and happy editing. Camenati (talk) 21:17, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I'll be careful for editing (I hope), including some grammar things. TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 21:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Indefinite sitewide block notice

Unfortunately, it looks as though you have not learned from your previous warnings regarding rule violations, in this case plagiarism with your recent information addition to Nuyorican Productions. After several years of helping the wiki well, it has come to this indefinite ban being issued on your account after you have been warned many times, even after a final warning mentioning a permanent block if rules were continuing to be broken by you, yet unable to keep note of the things you have been warned to avoid and apply. Please note that you should at least reword the information you got from other sources so that no intellectual property rights and honesty among editors can be undermined.
If you wish to appeal your block, please read our guide to appealing blocks to understand what is expected when appealing a ban. Please try to focus on improving your behavior in the next few months or so instead of filing an appeal immediately so that you can demonstrate you acknowledge the rules you have violated. If you have shown genuine improvement within that timeframe, then that brings up a good chance of your account being unbanned. Breaking that promise will result in the ban being reinstated and a lengthier, possibly unachievable, recovery time for you to return to editing. Thank you for nearly all the contributions you have made to improve and expand AVID and best of luck in your future appeal. Camenati (talk) 19:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

TheRealMarcel2000 is asking that their block be reviewed.

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Request reason:

I'm so sorry for coping and pasting from Wikipedia, but I just wanted to undo and fixed in that page!

Decline reason:

Please read your final warning closely, as well as all the other warnings and blocks you have received. You appear to really regret that decision at this moment, but unfortunately, you made a promise to be careful with editing but broke it several days later. The details in the final warning, as well as all those bans and warnings you have received in the past, should be taken note of very seriously. The type of people who would shrug that off are users who don't think those bans and warnings are a big deal, as they know they will return to editing, but start to show signs of regret when they know they will no longer contribute to the wiki. I'm not saying you are one of those kinds of users since you do mean well before signs of an indefinite ban are imminent, but allow me to say that you should not keep treating each succeeding warning lightly and continue doing what you have done in violation with the rules from time to time, as that is going to put more and more weight on you in the future to the point where you cannot take it any further. If this was an accident, then I would have seen you correct the issue immediately or not long after making that edit. That, or "be careful for editing" as you worded it. That would show you are sincere with your promise and well aware that plagiarism is prohibited. But in the end, please keep this in mind: a broken promise like this cannot be reversed no matter how hard you try to put it back together. Camenati (talk) 20:09, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

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